4 telephone interviews and 1 where they flew me to Phoenix. All casual.They told me I had too much experience with an established company and they had issues w/ other people fitting into their workplace environment in the past. They are big on what they think is a special culture. Reminds me of any other company that is growing. Think they would have realized that with my resume before flying me out to visit. Very over-rated opinion of their company culture. They sell junk cars!!